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Dr Umar Johnson's School Scam EXPOSED

SamAnt O'God Season 1 Episode 4

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On this episode of Hip Hop News Uncensored, hosts O’God and SamAnt break down some of the most talked-about stories shaking up the culture right now.

We dive into the explosive situation surrounding Tory Lanez, who is reportedly suing the prison system for $100 million—raising serious questions about what’s really happening behind the scenes. Then, we shift gears to Dr. Umar Johnson, as new developments surface and more questions are raised about the long-promised opening of his school.

Finally, we get into a heated media clash as Gillie and Wallo go head-to-head with Joe Budden, sparking a bigger conversation about respect, accountability, and the state of hip-hop media today.

This is one you don’t want to miss—raw, unfiltered, and straight to the point.

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SPEAKER_01

To another episode of the Hip Hop Uncensored Podcast. I'm your brother O God. And sitting across from me is my co-host.

SPEAKER_03

What up, y'all? It's your man Sam and CEO of Viral Hip Hop News. You're in the building for another edition of the Hip Hop Uncensored Podcast. Oh God was good, my brother.

SPEAKER_01

What up, what up, man? We back here, man. Monday, April the 27th. Shout out to all the great people out there. I wanna I want to start the show off today, man. And we're gonna get to the sports at the end of the program today. But I wanna, we did a segment the other day, right? And we talked about, you know, the the effect of uh hip hop on the white community. And our brother Ali left a comment. I don't know if he was trying to be sarcastic. I don't know if you've seen this comment here. What do you think about that?

SPEAKER_03

He said, is any of their mom still on crack?

SPEAKER_01

Is anybody's mom still on crack? I I look I take it as being sarcastic. Like, uh, you know what I mean? Which is funny because we haven't talked to Ali in a long, long time. Yeah. You know, um, but I here's what I'll say the point, the point that I was just making, you know, about the maybe not a lot of people on crack no more, but the point that we're making is that when you have these negative influences on people that don't have a lot of exes and outlets already, it could influence them the wrong way. If you put me and him, if he if he's in a white community, I'm in the black community, he has more exits to make it in life. I have less exits to make it in life, right? I'm around poverty, I'm around poor education, I'm around poor, poor nutrition, I'm around a lot of crime, right? I don't have no family structure. I'm around poverty, for one. He's around, you know, two-parent household. They teach him, you know, school is great. He's in a great community, has a great, you know, system around him and all of that. You know, it's not a lot of crime. You can walk down the street and eat off the street, the street's so clean. So he don't have to worry. At night, he's going to soccer practice, he's eating, he's getting his ass in his bed and drinking a glass of milk. This kid, he gotta walk through the street, damn near get shot, crack bottles laying all over the place, crack vials, crackheads walking up and down the street. The teacher really don't care, right? He gotta worry about, you know, all types of other things. His mom don't got no money for this, she doing this, her dad is locked up, he's in prison. The outcomes could be different. It's not an excuse, it's the environment. That's all I was kind of saying, but I'm not trying to make an excuse because there are examples, and you don't have to turn to drugs. You don't have to turn to doing negative things, a lot of people don't. But I'm just saying that if you put two kids in different environments, you're gonna have a likely outcome more so, depending on what side they're on. That's all I'm saying at the end of the day.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, and it can't be denied that if your reality matches what you're hearing on these records, that you're going to be heavily influenced by it. And even if you're not, even if it doesn't match your environment, music heavily influences everybody. You know what I mean? And this is we we talked about that heavy too. So yeah, you can make any excuse or any reasoning you want, but to a black kid looking at a black artist, you know what I mean, highlight his life or highlight his environment, and then if he goes off and says something off the wall, whatever the case may be, we're not gonna sit back and act as if that doesn't have a heavy influence on the people that they're reaching out to, especially when those people are in like situations. So I mean, no, people mamas aren't on crack the way they were in the 80s and the 90s, but I mean, black people lead abortions like a motherfucker. I know that. And I'm not turning our disseminating that to music necessarily, but when you have some of these female artists and some of these drill artists and they are throwing out the messages the way they are, and these kids are listening to it. I think that we still have problems that we need to kind of talk about and not throw under the rug. And it's no disrespect to Ali. Say whatever you want, brother. Much love to you. But we're not gonna sit back and act like, oh no, it influenced the same or is not it's no different in one sector of the world that it is in the other. Because come on, man. He's talking about a guy from St. Louis. Yeah. So like and not a stupid dude. Brother's intelligent as hell, he knows right, right.

SPEAKER_01

But I again, I don't know. It looked like it was probably sarcastic. I don't know. Yeah, you know what I mean? But that's the way I'm taking it. Yeah, you know, whatever. And people watching, it is what it is. Maybe he felt some way about the past. I know we we were critical of him at times, I think. Maybe with the Nelly situation. But we just gave our true opinion with that. Yeah. As far as the little con him trying to sue him, him losing that lawsuit. Bad, it is what it is.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, like, yo, I mean we got that brother's phone number, so no beef, man.

SPEAKER_01

No doubt. Next, I'm gonna talk about Tory Lane's man. He suing the prison, right, for $100 million. Now he was stabbed 16 times. He's suing them, claiming that the staff knew that he his life was in danger. Now, he probably should have died as much time as he got stabbed and where he got stabbed, but they medevacked him out there quickly and he was saved. Now he's suing the prison for $100 million. What's your thoughts?

SPEAKER_03

Um, I don't know what's gonna come out of it. I don't know how, okay, so what I do know is these types of situations happen all the time. Maybe not to as high a profile of people as the Tory Lanez.

SPEAKER_01

Right.

SPEAKER_03

So I don't know how it works. Like if how how you maybe you could help me out. Do prisoners have rights to where they're allowed to sue in those types of situations when it comes to humane type of situations? Because I feel like this type of shit happens all the time. Yeah, yeah. And you often don't hear about them being sued for a hundred something dollars. Is it justified as a human being when you ask me sitting on the outside? Yeah, absolutely it's justified. You would think that even though these men and these women are prisoners and obviously they're in there for whatever the situation is, they have staffing and they have guards in place not only to watch and watch over these inmates, but protect them at the same time to avoid these types of situations. That's why they have lockdowns, that's why they have uh protective custody, that's why they have solitary confinement, all these different things. Right. It's because it feels like there's protections in order to at least try to help them in some way, shape, or form. But at the same time, I'm like I said, I'm sure this happens all the time, and I don't know the amounts of times that it goes to court and these inmates win these type of situations. So is is Tory Lane's doing this because of his notoriety, because of his who he is publicly, maybe that this can kind of create some steam and get him something, or is he doing or or or carrying out an act that inmates have the rights to do?

SPEAKER_01

I honestly I don't know the answer to that question as far as like do they have right? I was probably saying probably yeah. I don't see why you give that right up, especially if you're now you're trying to move it to, because like you said, this stuff happens all the time. Who you wanna blame for it? Right. But he is framing it like, all right, they knew this was about to happen, they didn't act. They didn't, you know, either stop the guy, go search his cell, you know, whatever they could they could have, he's probably trying to sue them for like negligence, like, yo, you're something y'all could have did, so that's gonna have to wait to go through the court system. And the judge is gonna have to hear it, the lawyer, they're gonna have to go back and forth and see if he has any merit. I don't blame him for doing that shit. Yeah, because you know, we hearing a lot of shit out there about they was trying to kill him because of this, and this person was trying to set him up. I don't I don't know how true none of that stuff is, you know. But if if he's privy to it, then he has every right, in my opinion, to at least pursue it. Yeah, yeah. And shout out to Tory Lane and free Tory Lane's because that whole situation is crazy with him and Megan the Stallion, man. That's right.

SPEAKER_03

Sloppy, disturbing. It don't seem like they had the adequate information to begin with, or if they did, they didn't use it right. And in those types of circumstances, and it ain't no man versus woman, it's damn sure not a black man versus black woman issue. Right. It's a we don't really know what happened. Yet you got a man sitting in prison because of he say, she say, and not actual evidence. And that's wrong. That man should be free without question.

SPEAKER_01

Definitely. Next story, I want to talk about the Michael Jackson biopic. We didn't watch it yet. Oh. So you really can't. Did you watch it? I've seen it. Oh, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_03

I worked the movie, so I saw it.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, okay, cool. Well, yeah, let's talk about it, man. What do you think about it, man? I'm hearing a lot, I'm hearing a lot of great things about it from people. But I heard it.

SPEAKER_03

I'll put it this way. I'm not gonna hate on the movie. It's okay, so listen, if you walk in there thinking that you're about to go see the Jackson's American dream that we've seen a million times when we were younger, you're not. Okay. It is an it's it's a totally different type of nostalgia than that movie is. And personally, I think that movie's better, but I also grew up on it. I watched it six million times. When I saw the Michael Jackson, because I was going in and out, and then I said, let me just kind of, I had some time, let me actually watch it. Going in and out and watching it, listening to some of the performance pieces, the nostalgia was there, it was dope, but I wasn't really feeling it. Then being able to sit down and kind of watch the story and how it unfolded and watching his nephew kind of do act and do his thing. I enjoyed the film. I enjoyed it. I think that it's definitely worth a see if you like Michael Jackson to kind of confirm this, because I know that we have a debate, not us, but as a people, who was better, Michael Jackson, Prince. Look, it wasn't nobody touching Michael Jackson. This man's been dead now for 20 years. Right. He's still talking about his story, you still got people dressing like him, you still got people talking about him, debating. He is absolutely the number one person. And I've been in these movies the last couple of months now, and I've been disappointed at the turnout because movies and the theater and that experience is something that should always be alive. And it was, it's a dying, it's a dying art form. People, Michael brought asses to the seats in death, yet again, because that movie theater was packed. I'm saying it's breaking records and it's legit. People are going to see this movie, and you should. You know what I mean? I think you should. It it highlights, it heavily highlights the relationship between his struggle with him and Joe. And him trying to kind of break out as a man and as his own individual artist. It kind of goes, it leans into that storyline. So it's dope, you know what I mean? If you know, if you know Michael Jackson, obviously you're gonna know a lot of it, but it definitely gives you a different side of how he kind of broke out of the shadow of the Jackson 5 and broke into his own. So people give it a 10 out of 10 out of emotion and shit like that. People are giving it three out of ten if they hated it. I'll give it an eight out of ten, you know what I mean? And it's worth the see for sure.

SPEAKER_01

Now, are they touching on anything as far as like the allegations or how the FBI was watching him or the Sony, anything like that, or is it focused on his life?

SPEAKER_03

They don't get close to that. Wow. Okay. And as a far, and I'm not gonna ruin the story, but as as far as a timeline is concerned, you may be surprised at the end of the movie on where they kind of ended it as far as timeline.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Because I was kind of shocked, like, damn, they only stopped it right here. Like, really? But then it says Michael Jackson will return, so I don't know if they got a part two. Uh-huh. Sort of extended out a little bit because there's a lot of like, they they showed a lot of the good Michael Jackson. They didn't show a lot of what the struggle that he had to deal with out here and how he kind of responded and how he dealt with the shit that was being said about him a little day.

SPEAKER_01

They playing his music and all that, like something. Okay, dope. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, yeah. That's dope. They got they got real busy way more than American Dream did on like some of the creations and little things. And that was hard. Like, if all of that was true, which I have no doubt in my mind, a lot of it was on how he was talking and doing certain things, they did a good job with that.

SPEAKER_01

Right. I want to throw this. I'm just looking at this. I'm gonna play this real quick. This is by Chopped by Chopped Chi Podcast, I think. Okay. But your brother's on here, Dr. Uma. Let me hear what he's talking about, man. Talking about the schools being blocked. Let me say this.

SPEAKER_00

They're blocking our final inspection because they don't like me, right? All I know is if I keep my faith in the Almighty, that wall gotta fall. Absolutely. Because we've come too far. You see what I'm saying? So, you know, when people start getting overwhelmed, as a therapist, as a life coach, I tell people, listen, you're dealing with too much. Drop it all, and let's go back to the basics. You, God, and your destiny, whoever in your life who is blocking, undermining, sabotaging any of that, they got to go, and they got to go right now. You feel me? Empty your phone out right now. But, but, but, but, but do you want a better life or not? Because you're carrying too much dead weight. You got people who are only there to see you fail. You see that? And a big problem a lot of us have, especially when you are a giver, and I'm a giver, we we tend to put people before ourselves. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but you have to know whether people are worth it or not. Another person. What the fuck is that?

SPEAKER_01

Live reaction. So now, yeah, so now they they they're blocking the school because they don't like you. Come on, man. Like first of all, that'd be entirely illegal. Whoever that company, whoever that district, state, they can't just do that because they don't like you. Like, I I get it. Like, it's this it's this big conspiracy. The lawyers are trying to stop him, city halls trying to stop them, the negroes trying to stop him, everybody's trying to stop this man from opening a school when we have, I don't know if it's hundreds of, but we have a lot of black-centered schools around the country, probably at least one in every state. I'll give it that, right? We see brothers all over, the Randalls, the Q-Butters, all over all the time. He's been raising money and giving you excuses. They've been teaching black boys and black girls. They've been graduating people, sending them to college, teaching them STEM, teaching them how to do practical things, teaching them how to garden, all the shit that the dream that he sold you guys is people doing it. Take your money and give it to the Randalls. Take your money and give it to the Qs because these people, for what I see, is transparent and they're saying, look, this is what we're doing with the money, and this is what we need the money for. I always said I would use that as a if I was Umar, I would use that. Yo, I need a million dollars to do this. We can't get the computers, we can't get this to do this. And then when we get it, yo, thank y'all. I got it. Let's what we here's what we brought with it. Here's what we got left, here's here's what we're gonna do next. People are gonna help you if you're transparent and honest. All this deceptive shit, all this narcissistic shit about oh, you know, this people the people trying to stop me, dog is stalling. Because remember, the school's supposed to open every year for the last at least eight years, it's supposed to open. I'm gonna push this. This shit it'd be 2031, and we'll still be talking about it. And you nuts will still be giving him money. I don't know why. This is some type of psychosis that we got. We need some type of a leader, some type of a savior, or something, something to believe in. And we keep giving money. I almost wanted to say hallelujah and start shouting when he started talking. He ain't no different. He's a pan-African preacher, that's all he is. He's peddling his Pan-African stuff, right? No, he can he can he can leave today and be in the church and get rich because he got that persona, he got that whole thing going. He's just using it, aping Marcus Garvey, aping, you know, Kawanda Kajufa, aping all these different people, man. Come on, man. If y'all don't see this shit by now, you deserve to be taken for every damn dollar you got.

SPEAKER_03

And it's shocking that a lot of these platforms, and I'm not trying to get on the brothers on these platforms, man, because we all trying to just make it do our thing, man. A salute to y'all. Y'all had Umar on there, but god damn. Y'all let him word soup y'all to death about that shit, talking about something yesterday, shook y'all head and actually believed that shit. Listen, and why is it? I I just got questions. Why is it always to when he's sitting behind a microphone and asked about it, do we hear all these new hurdles that come about? We never gets on there. I've never seen a one-time walk the hallways of this ready-to-be expected school, ready to go. Never seen him walk the hallways and go, hey, look, we're ready to go. Delaware's stopping us. Come on, people. You know what I mean? Here's my gym. Here's the cafeteria, here's the bus loop, here's all never, never does any of that. And when I see Umar and I look at his personality and I see him in the car running his mouth or on these platforms running his mouth or at a paid event running his mouth, you can't tell me that his personality, if in fact all of this was done and ready, that we would have not seen it a million times over to put the pressure on these people to get this school open. Look what I did. Ha ha, look what I did. We don't see any of that. I guarantee you, if y'all walked in the school, there would be no electric, there'd be no running fucking water. Yeah. Them old ass Berenstein bear books will still be laying all over the ground. That shit has not been touched. It has not been touched. It has not been inspected because it's nowhere close to being ready to inspect. I challenge you to take my words and call bullshit on it by showing us how it's ready to move. I guarantee you he won't. It'll be more word soup and more nonsense and more brothers hating and this person didn't donate and all this shit. I'm gonna go a step further. That money's gone. That money is gone, and not a cent of it went into actually taking care of the infrastructure of that school. Did he use some couple dollars to buy the building? I'm sure that he did. How else would he get it? But did he put a penny into it? Did he put a penny into investing? Not painting a fucking red, green, and black rock and putting FDMG on the side of spray paint. I'm talking about that. I'm talking about actually investing to have an actual plan in place to open that school to actually educate young black boys. I challenge all of it. And I dare somebody to call us a hater and all this stuff in the comments to actually show us some tangible proof that that school is anywhere close to being opening. You show me some tangible proof of him investing a single penny in that school, a fucking mop and a dustpan and a and did actual work in there. I promise you he didn't. Challenge you. Right.

SPEAKER_01

And the thing is like, yo, hold on. Like, if you got a school that's ready to be inspected, they'll come out and inspect it. It doesn't matter. Nobody ain't on our listening to this nigga like this. Like he really thinks they are. These people living their lives. They probably know of him. Yeah. But everybody's not sitting around watching this dude on his Instagram live all day and shit. It's a school that gotta be inspected. That's my job. I'm gonna go inspect it. It's something that he's hiding. Something's not all the way done. Something was halfway done. Something's being because it's like he's giving himself excuses every step of the way. Oh, the plumbing company, the lawyers, the HVAC, you know, now it's a City Hall, the IRS, it's all just hating Negroes online. It's always something. He puts obstacles in his own way. So I mean, it's a shame, bro, because we could have had such a great relationship with him, man. And now it's just a shame, bro. Yeah. But I'm gonna move off. I'm gonna move off that one, man, for time's sake anyway. I'm gonna finish this last one, then we'll knock this sports one out and get up out of here real quick, man. Finish this other topic next week. So, I don't know if you've seen, man, Wallow put out a sneaker. It's called Airplanes and Hotels. And it sold out the first day. Yeah, it's it looks it's like the wave what people wear today. Like the, you know, um, maybe if you want to pull up and look at it real quick and check it out. It's decent, it's dope. And he put them out and it sold out very, very quickly. Let me know if you like them when you see the uh photo. But Joe Button was on his podcast, and he was kind of going at like dissing them a little bit. Like, yeah, I had a you know contract, I could have had sneakers before and all that. And Gilly, you know, Gilly's the mouthpiece for the podcast. You see them joints? Yeah, right there, yeah. They're not horrible, you know, and look like they're original. It's not a knockoff or copying nobody else. Right, right, man. You know what I mean? Because some people like they they they I like originality. If you're gonna come out with your own thing, it don't look like something that's already out there, and maybe they do look like something. I don't know, but if you if you're original with it, original design, I think it's dope.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

But what do you think about Joe Button kind of clowning? I don't know. Are they really beefing or what? Gilly Wild on Joe Button. I thought they was cool.

SPEAKER_03

Uh uh Joe Joe do that little sneak diss and shit every now and again for some weird reason.

SPEAKER_01

Right.

SPEAKER_03

I ain't gonna diss the brother for it. Like you said, they give me like a new balance ASIC vibe. Yep. Vibe. Yeah. I don't think he's knocking off anything. I thought the the logo was original. And I'm not like, okay, one thing I will give Wallow is he is an ultimate hustler. Like he got out of prison and he knew how to hustle. He got on these phones and he was doing his push-ups in the rain and doing his motivational, and that's how he got hot. He jumped into the podcast game, jumped into the pot content game, wasn't afraid to go out there and put himself out there hustling. You know what I mean? Yeah, people gave him some criticism and said little things behind the scenes. Ain't never dealt with him to really judge that. And I'm not mad at him for going out there and venturing out and creating a sneaker. I don't know who he partnered up with. I don't see a big Adidas sponsor, you know what I mean, on his back. I don't see a big Nike sponsor on his back. And Wallow 267 out of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania X-Con sold out in a few hours. I I cannot knock that, bro. I salute it. I'm happy for him, proud of it, and yeah, keep going, man. That's inspirational.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, nah, it definitely is because it's like people not just staying in one space. Yeah. And like you said, like it, it's I wouldn't knock them if they got a Nike deal or Adidas, but it's just something about like, all right, I'm getting this from the mud, I'm putting my own shit out there and take my own risk. It's nothing you can hate on that. It's just it's all inspiration at the end of the day. So I don't know what Joe, but I seen a little video with them talking a little bit, whatever. I don't know. I, you know, then Gilly put out a video today talking about we not competing with nobody. We in our own space and you know, all of that. Yeah, that's how it should be. You know, y'all got the bag already. Yeah, who's competing with you at this point? Yeah, you know, the liquor company, y'all got paid by the company, yeah, y'all doing a whole bunch of things, so it really ain't no competition. Joe Button got paid.

SPEAKER_03

Why can't we just eat and be happy together, man?

SPEAKER_01

That's it. That's it. You know what I mean? So that kind of is what it is, man. You know, Joe Button, he's like that though.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

He'll throw his little shots and shit and all that, and uh couple other guys on there talking too. So that is what it is, man. Let's move to the sports segment and get up. I'm gonna let you go first, bro. How do you feel about the draft picks that Washington acquired during the NFL draft this year? The first pick you got Sonny Styles from what Cos were he from again?

SPEAKER_03

He's from Ohio State.

SPEAKER_01

Ohio State, right, right. Projected as one of the uh, I guess at least top ten players in the draft. Miss he replacing Bobby Wagner for y'all. Yes.

SPEAKER_03

I guess. Okay. Okay, yeah. He's uh he's our our official middle linebacker, green dot guy, and we're not putting that pressure on him early on because he's interchangeable. He could play the Sam, Mike, or Will. And we have other people that could wear the green dot if in fact he's not ready. So the pressure's not on him to go ahead and try to beat a leader of that team, but that's his DNA. Kids are just he he comes from an NFL uh bloodline. His dad, Lorenzo Styles, played for, I know he played for the Rams the year they won the Super Bowl.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

So, and he's a great dude. Personally, I had two people on my wish list um that night. It was Jeremiah Love or it was Sonny Styles. I wanted them. You know what I mean? So I'm happy that we got him. It was a ton of great talent sitting there at seven. So if we would have got a Mansor Delane who ended up going with the Chiefs.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, they came up. I heard they came up and got him from y'all. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I think that we kind of gave him the finesse a little bit. Not that we wouldn't have taken him, but I think we'd rather had Sonny Styles based off of what I was hearing in the Mansor. But Mansor is a beast too, and gonna be a hell of a corner in KC. Carnell Tate, you know what I mean? Somebody that was projected to go to us. I'm kind of glad that he didn't, because I wasn't, I wasn't the biggest fan of him, but I'd have been happy. So it was a lot of different people that they were projecting. Nobody knew a damn thing about this year's draft because it went completely different than a lot of people thought. At the end of the day, I'm glad we got Sonny, real happy about that. Let it dude, and I'm happy about that pick. We got Antonio, Antonio Williams out of Clemson slot receiver in the third round, who I thought was a little bit of a steal. People were projecting him to go early. But then if you listen to people talk about this draft, pick 15 to pick 60, we're pretty much some of the same players. If you had like top 15 on your board, 15 to 60 weren't much of a difference. So it wasn't a surprise that people maybe thought he he dropped a little bit. Got a uh project defensive end. I think his name is Joshua Joseph out of Tennessee in the fifth round. Well, I think it's cool. You know what I mean? We got a lot of depth on the defensive line, especially at the DM position now. A lot of one-year deals, so hopefully this year he can learn and kind of get used to the NFL speed and the system, and he can be somebody that can contribute next year as some of these one-year deals kind of go away and we don't bring them back and we can kind of fill him in. Got a running back out of Penn State. I think the all-time leading rusher in Penn State history, which is shocking, thinking about the studs that came out of there. Probably played all four years. That's why he got that record. But uh big bruiser. You know what I mean? Somebody to take over that menacing role that we have in our running back room. We grab a center. Um I think his name is like Tyler Cuban or Nuban. So he's projected to be cool. Hopefully, at the end of the day, man, you don't know about these fifth or sixth round players. You just hope that they can project into something. Yeah. Some kind of contributor on your team. Hopefully that center can turn into something. Hopefully that that DN can um turn this up next year. We can get some contribution out the running back. But what was my name, my man's name? Sonny Styles, obviously, and then Antonio Williams are two picks. I'm very excited about our new linebacker and receiver. Hopefully they could do some things, man. So when I think about free agency and I think about what we did in the draft, man, I'm happy. Adam Peters did his job. Now these coaches and Dan Quinn, you know what I mean? You're up next. Let's get these players ready to do their thing. But um, from Adam Peters' perspective, I like what he's done.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I heard a few people, a couple people I seen, I came across. Because like when you're on Twitter, man, like some some shit is gonna be flying at you. Golly, yeah. And I and I seen um, I think JP Finlay and a couple other people was like, they was criticizing the receiver pick, like you already got Jalen Lane. Did you hear that?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, they're stupid. And they got schooled that the local media got schooled a little bit on. You got Jalen Lane, who's 5'9, picked in the fourth round, projected to be a punt and kick returner. That's what he did in Virginia Tech. He was a punt kick return specialist. We tried to put him as a number three wide receiver. He doesn't have the hand, which is why he was a punt returner slash receiver. He was never coming out as this polished route runner, never noted for his hands. He was a kick and punt returner, and we've seen him. He flashed in that. Now, he probably would have flashed more if we would actually got some goddamn defensive stops and had chances for teams to punt. We ain't gonna chance to do that. Antonio is totally different, polished route runner, great at separating, good speed, damn near six feet tall. He's a completely different athlete than Jalen Lane is. Now, for speed, for speed, they probably got the same wheels, but totally different athlete. And I'm glad we got him in a slot. Now, are we done at receiver? I don't know. I don't think so. I wouldn't be personally, there's a couple of receivers.

SPEAKER_01

What about Iuk? What's up with him?

SPEAKER_03

You gotta ask San Francisco. Yeah, I thought they was releasing him or something. I thought they were releasing him. And this is my thing about Iuk, right? Even if they do release him, win, who knows? It might be a post-June 1st. They may be able to release him in September. I wouldn't rely on that completely. We have not seen this dude play a uh, we have not seen him on the field, right? We have not seen him play a snap since 2023. If we think that that's our number two walking in, I think we're playing a very dangerous game. Yep. I would grab a Juwan Jennings, I would grab another, I'll grab a fucking Stephon Diggs, I'd grab another veteran receiver right now. And then if you want to grab Bayouk to see what he got, all right, cool. That could still be our project for you. Because I think wherever he gets released, it's gonna happen anyway. I think he's coming to us. But I wouldn't rely on that being our number two because we don't know what the kid could do. We don't know what he got. So I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and before I kind of get into this Eagles draft, man, I want I wanna. There's this guy on the, I think it's Jake Robotti, I think his name is. I don't know if you've ever heard of him. No, I don't know if he does like writing or something, but he's putting out all these AJ Brown clips. Oh boy. Of like him dropping passes and like him being pissed on the sideline. We up like 14 points. I'm I'm just looking back on it, kind of like, it's like a flashback. Like, god damn, dog. Like, he was like a bitch. And here's what I think happened, man. I'm gonna reveal this to everybody. Yeah, I felt like that AJ he wanted his touches, man. He didn't give a fuck if he was up 50. He wanted to be a part of the offense, he wanted his touches, and he felt a certain way when Saquon got there because it meant, you know, I don't know, I'm not gonna say he was jealous, but he just wants what he wants. He wants to be a part of the offense. If it's not going through him, I think he has something he feels like. It's people like that. I even see kids and shit. Your team could be winning. Yeah, and they ain't getting their points and shit, and they sitting there like they got their back turned to the coach and shit at the end of the, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. Like, man, fuck this shit. But I think it started to boil when Jalen and I think Jalen stepped to him. And I think I seen games. I don't know if you seen the same thing where Jalen purposely said, I'm not throwing to this motherfucker. I'm gonna go to Smitty or somebody else. And I think our shit just went off. It did. Dang, hold on.

SPEAKER_03

That shit gave us a big ass speech.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, hold on. I know the back real quick. That's why, man. God damn, I can't believe I used all that fucking shit already. Oh god. That shit would never happen if we fucking would have had that. Can't we use that much on videos? It might not even work. Yeah, I think it's uh it might I don't know if it's gonna work. Oh, it might not work. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So where was that? I was talking about AJ. Yeah. I really feel like it be it became like he wanted his touches and and people the team was starting. I even heard Saquon one day, you know, say, look, I'm all about the team. All right, and I then I BG a couple years ago was like Jalen's trying. When you remember when he came out and said all that shit, and then that's the went to the Super Bowl. So I really feel like that he just got tired of not being used in office. Maybe there were some other things going on behind the scenes. I heard people talking about, I really can't confirm none of that shit. But looking back on the shit, like, yo, how much of a bitch this dude was for real. And I hate to be like that. I really do. And I was thinking, man, what when he gets traded, bro, and he had that press conference in New England, oh my God, that shit's gonna be fucking. You know they're gonna be throwing shit at him. Well, how's your relationship with jail and I nigga? Hopefully he'll take, I think he's gonna take the high road, you know, in the situation, you know, but it's just sad, bro. Because we had such a great thing, but as we know, all great things must come to an end.

SPEAKER_03

Let me ask you this. Do you think that it's a guarantee he's going to New England? Is that a foregone conclusion? Because I'm just, it's, it just seems so it almost seems like it's done damn near to like a tampering extent, to where it's like, okay, so how do y'all know all of this if nobody's actually inked it, nobody's confirmed it? Are we positive? I mean, this is Adam Schefter saying this shit. Like, probably the most plugged-in dude there is in the league. Are we sure that it's them? Or could it be post first June 1st? He's in Cincinnati. And I'm not saying Cincinnati, but anywhere. Like, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01

Like, I'm not sure. I'm right. Neither am I. That's a good point. He could probably, I mean, he can go anywhere. Yeah. Anybody can step up and say, look, now we want them. And if they give up the right package, because if I'm another team, I'm sitting waiting, like, hold on, shit. We got a chance to do this this year. We can get AJ Brown. Fuck that. I'm about to go ahead and give them these little picks and go to the get the Super Bowl real quick. That could definitely happen. That could be, I don't know, Baltimore or any one of those teams, Buffalo. Yeah. They could step in. So, no, I don't think it's a foregone conclusion. I think they had conversations and they and they, you know, really talked about it, but it's not a foregone conclusion. And again, this whole thing, and here, and these Philly beat riders that's running around saying, nobody thought that nobody was lying about the AJ thing. Like, we knew. We just didn't hear him saying nothing, but we didn't think that. They they they pounded on their chest now. Like, oh, now we know, because they after Makai Lemon and AJ's gone. We knew this shit, but we were just hoping, like, hold on, maybe, and we know how shit is exaggerated. We know how people just be trying to talk for clicks and all that shit. But AJ was clearly talking to Rabro. He was talking to other people. And what Lord Brunson was saying, they said AJ was talking to anybody he could about how much he wanted to get out. Like anybody, some fan in the street.

SPEAKER_03

Come get me, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Come get me out of there, which is crazy because it ain't like he had shitty years with us. He had career years. Yeah. So that's the part, but again, he he's he's wired different. Let's put it like that. You know, he had his issues, he's wired different. He wants to be the center of attention, he wants to be that guy. And it he it probably even times he was looking at SafeCon, like, man, damn, like that's my dude and everything. But I want to be the guy that they're cheering for. I want to be the one. So, you know, I honestly think, man, I'm not saying we're gonna be better because AJ's a fucking dog on the field, but it's the possibility that the chemistry could be better between the guys because now Jalen has to worry about forcing it to this nigga. Yeah, he can just play freely in the offense. And to get into the picks that we had, I had my town with my uh thing I had in front of me, my little screen. That shit went somewhere, threw it somewhere. But Mikhail Limbs, I be honest, I didn't know who the guy was. And it's not because he's not a good player, it's because I haven't been into the draft. Been locked into it. Yeah, I was just kind of waiting to see what was gonna happen. I think he could be a good fit, you know, for the team. We'll see. He ain't AJ Brown, you know, but I think that we have supplied enough weapons for us to be successful, you know, on offense. We got the uh the tight end. I think it's Brock Stowers. Towers, they projected he was either number one, two tight end. He's gonna be a more long-term thing, you know. Barn injury, if God goes down or something, he'll probably step in. But other than that, you're looking for him to take over for Dallas Goddard next year. We got a big, a nice prospect tackle. You know, I don't have his name in front of me because I lost my. Yeah, yeah. And we got the safety. But beyond the third pick, I don't really see much really going down with those other guys and this big Nigerian motherfucker we got and shit. They're saying he's we gotta see what happens with that. He's a two, three-year project. But a splash move that we made that I love is getting Jonathan Grenard. I love that move for the Philadelphia Eagles. And uh, it's a reaction because we wanted to keep Phillips, but I'm not mad at it. As much as I love Phillips, he disappeared in the playoffs against San Francisco. Where was he at? Did he play?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

That's when we needed the most to come in. He couldn't, he couldn't get past that line, which is not that great of a line outside of uh my man on the left tackle. You know what I mean? So he, you know, and I don't think he was worth that money. I think Gernard, he's getting about $25 million a year. He is a dog. He's worth it. And it's not even about him, it's about now he got Carter, we got Hunt, we got Nolan, we got some other dogs around that's gonna make, that's gonna free up. You can't just double team anybody on this line. So, and then I heard this press conference. The dude's a class act stand-up guy, a stand-up dude, a leader. And they said that Jalen Hurts, text them, we're gonna go get one. I hope so. I hope, I hope so. I'm not as sure without AJ how things are gonna look. And here's one thing I want to say too. I've never seen somebody criticize like Jalen Hurts. As soon as they get a draft pick, I wonder how he's gonna like they already trying to project like he's not gonna be able to run this offense, this new offense that we're gonna be running. As if the coach is not gonna come in and implement and implement certain things and do what he's comfortable with and implement new things. Like, it's just crazy how these people think, man. You think these coaches are just gonna, nah, it's my system. They used to, coaches used to be like that. Yeah, it's my system, you're gonna run it off. Nah, all right, what you like to do, Jalen? All right, here's what we're gonna do. Yeah, you like to do this? You might you won't you don't want to be under uh center? All right, we'll do it out the shotgun. Or we you know, we'll do it like this. So the coach, hopefully, he's great enough to be able to utilize our talents. Last thing, as bad as last year was, bro, people try to put it on hurts. He has his blame, he's a quarterback. To me, I seen the offensive line, bro. The offensive line was shit last year.

SPEAKER_03

Does that concern you going into next year?

SPEAKER_01

It does. Yeah, it does because those guys are young, man. Yeah, and and you know, those injuries concern me a lot. If our offensive line doesn't step up and play well, it's gonna be a long season. But if they get back to the form, that's why we kind of switched it out our running scheme. And people say the scheme with switch is more so for running, not passing. Because we're going to like a more of a zone blocking, you know, scheme where Saquon get the ball deep and pick and choose what he's gonna do because teams had to beat on us. That's another thing. Teams had it because we were so dominant the year before, we ran the same shit, thinking we was gonna do that shit again. Teams said, hell no, we're gonna run blitz, you motherfuckers crazy on first down, right? We're gonna stop you. You're not gonna get, we're gonna put you on second and 12. We're gonna blitz the quarterback like shit, take away his first read, take away AJ Brown and see what happens. And we seen we weren't able to make the adjustments. That's on the coaching staff, that's not on the players. Beyond those 20 plays, the court, I forget the bum ass coordinator's name. He he scripted great, but that's not where the magic is made, bro. The magic is in the chess match.

SPEAKER_03

The adjustment to the adjustment, right?

SPEAKER_01

And that's what Kellen Moore was good at. That's what that's what uh Fangio was great at. It's adjusting, and you know, all right, this person did that. And that's even in little league football. You got good coaches out there, they're gonna take away your best thing. I remember when I was I had a uh good receiver, I put him out there, he was killing him. They put a safety over top. What the fuck I'm gonna do now? Right, you gotta be able to make an adjustment to that. Like, all right, now I gotta do something else. People are gonna adjust to you if you're doing good shit, especially great coaches. The coaches couldn't do that. So I feel like this team is gonna be fired up and motivated. I really do. I really do. And I like some of the moves that they made, but we shall see how it ends up, man.

SPEAKER_03

Real quick before we get out of here. As a whole, I think the NFC East probably had one of the better drafts as a whole, yeah, collectively than the entire league, man. And that division's gonna be a motherfucker next year. Yeah. Um, them them division matchups are gonna be a dogfight all the way around. We could say what we want about the Giants. They ended up last place last year. They got better. They got better from a coaching perspective, they got better from a player perspective. Yeah. I think that our defense is gonna look completely different than what it did look like last year. I think that Dallas, that defense is gonna look completely different than it did last year. And I think that if anybody thinks, because the Eagles may have gone through some things when it comes to AJ Brown and little things, that defense looks like it's done retooled. You know what I mean? They got a plenty of receivers, and y'all gonna be right back at it too, man. So that division is gonna be a motherfucker next year, man.

SPEAKER_01

What do you think about Mikhail Lemons? Because I mean, I I don't people keep trying to compare him to this person and this person. I don't know, man. I I'm not I never sleep on nobody, but I just don't know. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03

Just my thoughts.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I like Mikhail Lemon a whole lot. If we were to trade down, and there were a lot of speculation that we trade with the Jets and fall to 16, I would have wanted Mikai Lemon there. Okay. I think he would have fit our offense well. He's a yak machine, he's tough, he runs hard routes, he's just a he's a dog. You know what I mean? Is he AJ Brown? No. He's nowhere near as fast, nowhere near as strong, nowhere near as talented as an AJ Brown. And this is why it's like if AJ wanted to work out, then you put Makai in a slot and you got your two outsides, dude. We're talking about something a little different. Like now we're talking about something different. But if you got Makai and he's got to be one of the to premiere people, then yeah, you might have a chance to shut that down. But if AJ was on that other side, we're talking about a wholly different ballgame. And that's what worried me because y'all weren't even supposed to get him. But how he did his thing and made his move, I like the kid a lot. I think y'all got a good one. I texted you that y'all got a good one.

SPEAKER_00

Right.

SPEAKER_03

I hate to admit it, and I did not want to see him go to Philly, but Makai Lemon's a he's a dog.